Two software engineers exploring the facets of developing SaaS businesses while working their day jobs. Hosted by Darby Frey, co-founder of Lead Honestly, and Ethan Gunderson, founder of Glean.

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33: No Code, Low Code, Artisanally Crafted Farm To Table Code

Ethan gives a post ElixirConf training update and Darby builds a notification system

32: The Employee Satisfaction Index

This week Darby and Ethan talk about fishing, Ethan's upcoming training, different seasons of working, SEO optimization, and artificial intelligence.

31: Do Nothing, A Bold Launch Strategy

Today Darby and Ethan stare into empty screens and talk through writing blog posts, database migrations, and generally how to be useful.

30: Sorry, The Crab Isn't Good Today

Ethan and Darby ponder designing user experiences, coke machines, marketing copy, blog posts, and giant DNS switches.

29: Fractions of a Year

Darby shares some information on their latest marketing projects, Ethan makes a commitment and starts something new.

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